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Frieza > End Of Z Goku; (no super forms)
Topic Started: Jan 24 2014, 07:37 PM (2,075 Views)
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I just wanted to confirm that in the movie Battle of God when Bliss said when challenging Goku at King Kai's Planet,

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Hm, with this power, there is no way that you could had defeated Frieza.


Which then Bliss didn't knew of his Super Sayian forms.

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Aye, also adding to the point where Frieza could create an energy ki ball that could destroy a single/multiple planets if needed, Goku on the other case does not generate enough energy.
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Jan 24 2014, 07:42 PM
Aye, also adding to the point where Frieza could create an energy ki ball that could destroy a single/multiple planets if needed, Goku on the other case does not generate enough energy.
Why do you think Goku can't do that? I don't remember any statements anywhere.
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I don't really need to say that a statement has to prove that he could not blast a whole planet by using his normal form.

Kamehameha - Has a chance of blasting towards Earth's Core.

Spirit Bomb - this can't be used

Ki blasts - not enough amplifications.
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End of Z goku=ssj3 goku from buu saga. It doesn't make sense that just 5 years before that(when battle of gods takes place) base goku can't even beat final form frieza. Goku would've had to make extremely unrealistic gains in just 5 years
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Jan 24 2014, 08:15 PM
End of Z goku=ssj3 goku from buu saga. It doesn't make sense that just 5 years before that(when battle of gods takes place) base goku can't even beat final form frieza. Goku would've had to make extremely unrealistic gains in just 5 years
Goku absorbed the power of the Super Saiyan God.
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Jan 24 2014, 08:15 PM
I don't really need to say that a statement has to prove that he could not blast a whole planet by using his normal form.

Kamehameha - Has a chance of blasting towards Earth's Core.

Spirit Bomb - this can't be used

Ki blasts - not enough amplifications.
Nope. Base vegeta instantly shot a full power ki blast that was implied to be able to destroy the planet's core
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Final form Frieza is quite powerful indeed, if only he could master that form to preserve his energy, however we do know that without Super Saiyan that extends agility, stamina and strength, Goku could be quickly worn out from the fight.
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End of Z goku=ssj3 goku from buu saga. It doesn't make sense that just 5 years before that(when battle of gods takes place) base goku can't even beat final form frieza. Goku would've had to make extremely unrealistic gains in just 5 years
Goku absorbed the power of the Super Saiyan God.
But then lost it eventually. Base goku in EOZ was equal to Uub. Base goku fighting beerus after absorbing the god form was much stronger than buu saga ssj3 goku. Or maybe he just didn't lose it all?
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I was implying the word 'blasts' for more than one shot, however I do think there is a chance where Goku could shoot a concentrated ki blast but not sure if it would be as powerful enough as Frieza's.
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If you have seen the movie, he had absorbed the ki energy of the gods to himself, making him kind of like mystic gohan.
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Final form Frieza is quite powerful indeed, if only he could master that form to preserve his energy, however we do know that without Super Saiyan that extends agility, stamina and strength, Goku could be quickly worn out from the fight.
So what you're saying basically is that if base goku was equal to ssj goku on namek, ssj goku would win? No it's opposite because being super saiyan adds strain and he actually wouldn't last as long. Being in normal form has no strain
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Jan 24 2014, 08:21 PM
If you have seen the movie, he had absorbed the ki energy of the gods to himself, making him kind of like mystic gohan.
I know. But because Uub=kid buu who is almost as strong as ssj3 goku was, and goku struggles against Uub, base goku during the fight with beerus>EOZ goku. The only explanation we have is that the god power that goku absorbed faded away

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That is partially true, when the 'Cell Tournament' had happened, you would see even Gohan in SSJ form like if he was born in it.

SSJ multiplies the potential and also the hatred towards the user, seeing that's what Goku did.

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I know. But because Uub=kid buu who is almost as strong as ssj3 goku was, and goku struggles against Uub, base goku during the fight with beerus>EOZ goku. The only explanation we have is that the god power that goku absorbed faded away


Battle of God had no script/idea until the early 2012. And as Goku fought Uub, we all know that hidden potential > normal potential which made Goku even more happier to be surprised with the fact that Uub is strong.
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